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Dale Weiers's avatar

Even Baseball Reference does not show when this game was rescheduled.normally they list all rainouts and rescheduled games on a teams schedule page.sounds like you have a bit of a mystery there.

Randy Steinman's avatar

As luck would have it, I'm the person who wrote the original post you're citing. I started my 1952 APBA replay a couple of months ago. Am using actual real-life starting lineups for every game as best I can, considering not all players are carded.

I suppose I should have done more scheduling research on the season than I actually did. But before I chose '52, I had looked at the standings for that season. The only MLB teams to *not* play 154 games that year (according to the final standings) were Brooklyn and the Boston Braves. Since each had played 153, I knew there was a head-to-head rainout in there somewhere. I figured if I got to the end of my replay - and that missed game still mattered (more likely affecting the Dodgers than the Braves) - I would simply create/play it.

That's why I was surprised when I arrived at this May 8th game in the AL schedule and discovered the Tigers and Washington had played to a never-resolved tie. But am not quite sure what I would have done differently to prepare for that scenario.

In the end, I rolled the game using the lineups from May 8th, 1952. Was glad I did, because Nationals' pitcher Don Johnson threw a no-hitter. So that was exciting. At some point, I will also replay the real-life makeup game (although as Dale Weiers pointed out, I'm not exactly certain which future Detroit-Washington game that will be).

So, in the end, the Tigers and Nats will each play 155 games in my replay. And I'm okay with that.

Scott's avatar

Um, "Senators", not "Nats." But why play the makeup game?

Randy Steinman's avatar

Um.. Nats, not Senators.

Did you even bother reading the actual 1952 newspaper clippings that Daniel posted?

Scott's avatar

I skimmed it and apologize for not picking that up. I never knew that they were ever called the Nationals. I used to handle municipal bond sales and periodically worked with the same bond advisor, John, and the same bond attorney, George. John was a huge baseball fan and the two of us often talked about baseball so one day George brought in a program from a 1951 game he had attended, Detroit vs. Washington where he had written, at the time, Senators and Tigers. So I did a search of what the Washington team was called in 1952 and this is what I found: "In 1952, the Washington baseball team was officially named the Washington Nationals, but they were commonly and interchangeably referred to as the Washington Senators or simply the "Nats". While official records and some uniforms used "Nationals" from 1905 to 1955, the media and fans overwhelmingly used "Senators"."

I'm curious whether the APBA envelop actually said "Washington Nationals" or "Washington Senators". I would expect "Nationals" but you never know.

Eric Naftaly's avatar

Envelope from the original 1955 set says "Senators", as do all the seasons from '61 until the team moved to Texas. (All my other 1950s sets are remakes.)

Scott's avatar

I have the Washington team from 1925 in the original World Series set and they are called the Senators when they were officially the Nationals. What is interesting is the team was officially the Senators from 1901 -1904 and then the Nationals from 1905 -1955 but people still called them the Senators. I doubt that people kept calling the New York team "Highlanders" after they became the Yankees in 1913.

SGJ Jamie's avatar

My grandfather grew up in DC and that is also where my mom's family grew up. The original AL franchise was gone long before I was born, but my uncles would refer to the teams as both Senators and the Nats.

They did not refer to them by their full official name the Nationals though, or I never heard anyone in my family do so when reminiscing about them.

The name Senators gained a lot of popularity with the team back in the 1880s and locals really never wanted to give that nickname up despite officially the club was named the Nationals in the first years of the franchise.

SGJ Jamie's avatar

Wow what a guy to end up throwing the no-hitter. It was meant to be for sure.