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Wyrd Smythe's avatar

Cool look back. It's an interesting point that the notion of a (virtual) "hall of fame" probably predates any physical ones by ages. It might be interesting to try to nail down the first general uses of the term as a metaphor for excellence in anything.

FWIW, I decided a while back that a lot of the debate about who belongs depends on whether one sees the HoF as a shrine to baseball or a museum of baseball. It seems reasonable to exclude, for instance, Pete Rose from a shrine, but equally reasonable to include him (and many others) in a museum of baseball. Perhaps it would be a good idea to have both.

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Eric Naftaly's avatar

Very nice work. I knew the early MVP selections (starting with the Chalmers award) made previous winners ineligible to win again, but I hadn't thought about the names being aggregated to create a physical hall of fame monument. I knew the Hall of Fame for Great Americans started in 1900, long before baseball's, though I didn't know it had a palatial building. When Cleveland brought up a pitcher named Steve Foster in the 1990s, I wrote that he had a Hall of Fame name -- the 19th-century songwriter (Hard Times Come Again No More, S'wannee River) had been chosen years earlier. The Bavarian building was a surprise to me. I had thought HOFs were an American invention, a product of the fact that unlike Great Britain and much of early 20th-century Europe, people here couldn't be given a noble title. (A Welsh correspondent of mine had no idea what a Hall of Famer was.)

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