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Steve Beren's avatar

For a Strat-O-Matic draft league, players with very minimal AB or IP are usually excluded. But some leagues allow such players, and stock replayers usually want to use them. My personal opinion is that if they had normal or worse stats than the league average (OPS, WHIP, etc.), base the card on their actual results. But if they had unrealistic monster results in just a few AB or just a few IP, personally I would favor a generic card with below league average results (similar to generic pitcher's hitting cards).

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SGJ Jamie's avatar

I think some games, APC for example, I do not think uses the exact stats for players with that few AB's or IP etc.

I guess in Strat or a Statis Pro type game the pitcher's card could take over

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ScarletNumber's avatar

I don't have it handy, but APBA used to modify the SSN of players who had few SBA so that they wouldn't be 36 or 0. If I can find the formula they used I will let you know

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Jason Urbanus's avatar

I was reading this thinking you were talking about Tom Paciorek, wondering how a guy who struggled so much in the minors managed to have a long major league career. Didn't know he had 2 brothers who played in the majors (his brother Jim played one season, struggled, and later played a number of years in Japan).

Anyways, I would imagine you'd have to tone his offensive performance down. I looked at his Replay card from 1963 -- it's awesome, but he has a number of out possibilities. Without calculating things, his card would produce at minimum a .400 BA, probably closer to .500. I think that is the right approach. Of course, if doing a replay, you'd have to resist the temptation of using him as an offensive ringer.

There's also the opposite problem, the guys that go hitless. Pete Crow Armstrong comes to mind, he went 0-14 after a late season call-up in 2023. He gets a 1 in 36 chance of hitting a single, and then only when facing a right-handed pitcher. I'd be generous give him a few more hit opportunities.

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Daniel Evensen's avatar

Absolutely right.

I know that Strat recently issued a card for Moonlight Graham - one with 0 hit opportunities. That itself is problematic. For guys who barely played at all in the major leagues, you'd think that you'd want to give them some kind of minor league equivalency card - something that could at least somewhat realistically estimate what they could or could not have done.

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ScarletNumber's avatar

Tom had a very long, if undistinguished, career; he played until he was 40

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